This is my personal tumblr. Mostly sparse postings. Occasional meat and sarcasm.
Okay, two, if you count Katrina but she’s not quite so visible.
This is also how you know who to side eye if there’s an entire cast of poc, and they’re only stanning for the white people, one of whom isn’t very visible.
From the network that brought you DADS eff this bullshit.
i just saw a gifset for the white queen and i remember AGES before we recorded that episode talking about it, M asked me and J if we had been watching the show.
and legit we both had the SAME reaction like—-WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE EVER WATCH A SHOW CALLED “THE WHITE QUEEN”? WHAT ABOUT THAT SOUNDS APPEALING TO U?! and M was all like….uhhhhhh…and filled us in and we were all like—-oh yeah, ok sure why not—-let’s watch it and compare it to game of thrones!
this just has me dying laughing rn because based squarely on the title alone me and J were like—-fuck outta here, we’re not watching that!
I’m still laughing about it.
negl the title is why i never considered watching it until you did that podcast
Have you guys seen the White Queen?
Is it about white ppl?
the ridiculous treatment of women in LoK’s narrative has gotten to the point where I think about amazing shows that treated their female characters so damn well but were for some reason or another canceled, and I almost break down crying because I’m. so. angry.
I’m angry that Asami is only there when she’s convenient for the narrative. She’s not a character, she’s a prop. Do we get to see her inner conflict resulting from last season? No! Do we get to follow her emotional journey as she struggles with the tarnished company her father left behind? Nope! She doesn’t even come up with the idea on how to save it, it’s given to her by a male character who seems to have overtaken her importance/role in the story.
I’m angry that Mako is framed as the victim when the women in his life (his boss and his gf) “act irrational”, yet back when he was doing the exact same things, we were supposed to sympathize with HIM.
I’m angry that with a business man who is almost on the level of Tony Stark in this world, the women who should be his Pepper Pots in every sense of the word is mostly silent and submissive, simply going along with whatever he says without question, occasionally with a little quip, but never seems to exist for much else. Ya know what would have been REALLY great? How about the hilarious, delusional businessman role be played by a WOMAN, and her personal assistant was the man? I’d sure be down for that!
I’m angry that a teenage girl who could have been a compelling, interesting character as the dry, dark cousin of the Avatar, has literally served no purpose other than to be “the crazy girlfriend” to one of the poor, defenseless male characters, and for comedy at that. Oh, and her brother has had far less dialogue and screen time than she, but showed more humanity and depth in his one line this episode than she has ever shown thus far.
I hate to find myself nodding in agreement with so much of this critique because I want so much to support Legend of Korra as it is one of the only shows on television to have a woman of color as a protagonist. At the same time, there is so much that is cringe worthy, problematic, or flat out misogynist-supporting in the narrative and characterization of the women in this series to mar it’s progressiveness.
inbetweenthelineart notes that “we have seen next to no female police officers, metalbender cops, Triad members, members of the Northern troops, or members of the Southern resistance force. In ATLA, while background characters were still predominately male, we were still given glimpses of female prisoners of war, female guards, and female soldiers. Why has this diminished so much? Shouldn’t gender progress (especially in the Water Tribes thanks to Katara) have blossomed to the point where the number of women is nearly equal to the number of men?”
Beyond the glaring disproportion of women in important roles in the story (from Tonraq to Unulaq to Varrick to Raiko, all of the new political movers-and-shakers introduced in Season 2 on screen are men), the most recent episode’s characterization of the “erratic spurned woman” really reinforces the all-male writing team’s difficulty developing women characters.
Yeah, the “woman scorned” is a pretty common TV Trope, but this is what we saw in the last episode: Bolin squealing in terror when reminded of spurred Eska’s rage—rage so murderous (and also directed at another woman, Korra) that her father and brother have to temper her wrath by reminding her that they need the Avatar alive. We saw Mako dumping Korra at work and her emotionally reactive destruction of furniture. She is the producer-described “strong female protagonist” so we see her yelling and disruptively flipping tables at her ex-partner’s workplace (a police station of all places.) We then see his supervisor (the only woman in the office) reacting to the damage by remarking that Mako got off easy…because when Tenzin rejected her she did even worse to Air Temple Island (a religious site and Tenzin’s home.) If these behaviors were committed by male characters the narrative would likely frame them as signs of abuse (even with our society’s tendency to romanticize this stuff) but on Legend of Korra, when the women are abusive, it’s part of the show’s humor.
When angry women are funny, when abusive behavior from women directed towards men is framed as funny instead of terrifying, this depiction underscores sexist attitudes towards women and their agency in general. [I’m reminded of the popular Korean movie My Sassy Girl—the titular woman character is emotionally abusive towards her hapless and bewildered boyfriend, but the audience is supposed to find this endearing (she’s sassy!) and harmless (she’s a girl!)]
It just makes me wish for the more nuanced depictions of the women and girl characters in Avatar: The Last Airbender. I can’t see Katara from A:TLA kicking over a table over being dumped or Toph taking her anger out by rampaging across a sacred island just because of some boy. In the series and in the continuation comics, Mai confidently calls Zuko out on his nonsense without hi-jinks designed to bring out audience chuffles. The only character from A:TLA that presented with this extreme degree of emotional dysregulation was Azula— smeared make up, brutal physical violence towards her environment, emotional abuse towards her loved ones—and written in a way that the audience did take her, her feelings, and her inappropriate expression of them seriously.
When women characters in Korra behave erratically and abusively after they are rejected by men, and the narrative prods us not to take them or their inappropriate behaviors seriously… it’s cliched writing and it’s (intentionally or not) sexism-reinforcing writing,
The continual absence of Katara is really puzzling from a narrative perspective too. Highly respected, a war veteran and master waterbender to boot, why is she not weighing in on this civil war? By any stretch she should be at the forefront of one of the two sides and her opinion would carry a lot of weight.
((I’m assuming her lack of presence is probably due to some IRL logistics with getting Mae into the recording studio but idk for sure, I hope that’s the reason at least, it’s better than them just REALLY dropping the ball here))
I’m also confused how ATLA, a show that was geared toward the 8-10 range of children, managed to consistently hit comedy I could relate to as a young adult, than Korra, which is geared toward an age demographic much closer to my own. I’ve yet to even crack a smile while watching this season.
Did any of the women mentors in Korra’s life—or Eska’s, or Lin’s lives—sit her down and say like, “Now Korra, when a boy doesn’t like you or breaks up with you it is not appropriate to go on a rampage and flip all of the furniture in his office/ chase him around / vandalize his sacred temple island.”
then I was like…women mentors…oh…right.
Disney doesn’t fucking white wash. I’m tired of seeing hipsters fuckin arguing about this shit. Most older Disney stories took place in Europe. What race is most dominant there? White. Fucking shocking when you have french, german, and even italian characters that are white.
Disney had Esmeralda & the Gypsies (unless you consider Romani white also, but the Romani weren’t religious murderous assholes or deformed freaks), Kida & the Atlantians (clearly a non-white race who were shown to have better technology than the asshole white people who busted in on them and lived peacefully. Gee, I can see how anyone who would relate to their race is pissed about bad representation. It’s not like you’re the exploring asshole murdering treasure hunters or anything), Pocahontas & her tribe (Native Americans, once again it’s not like you’re the violent murdering treasure hunters or anything), Jasmine & Aladdin & everyone else but Genie (Arabic, shockingly no asshole white people here) Tiana & her family & Naveen & Falcier (African American and 'Maldonian,' The selfish greedy stupid henchmen, spoiled dumb immature girl, and pompous dad are the only white people) Kuzco & everyone but Yzma in ENG (Wait a minute. This is based on a DANISH AKA WHITE story called the Emperor’s New Clothes and has been remade in the INCA culture AKA SOUTH AMERICAN. Wait…a white story turned into another race? Isn’t that what this stupid whitewashing argument is about? And you’re telling me the villain is the only character with white-ish purple skin? Gee.) Mulan & everyone in the film (Chinese and Mulan is actually voiced by an Asian actress).
You’ll also notice how in any Disney movie with the main characters being animals, if the villain is a human they are always white. In any movie where the protagonist race is something other than white, the villain is usually white. Jafar, Shan-Yu, Falcier, Maleficent (because she’s green) and Hades ( blue) are the ONLY non-white villains. But there has never ever been a movie where there is a white protagonist and the villain is a POC. Ever.
I’m going to use Oliver & Company as an example of how Disney “whitewashes” since all the humans in the film are white. The four main humans in O&C: Jenny, the spoiled little rich girl whose parents are never home basically abandoning her with her butler; Winston, a clumsy slightly dumb butler; Sykes, the villain who is a loan shark and total asshole; and finally Fagin, a thief and petty criminal. Yeah, those are some real great role models I had growing up as a kid. Gee, thanks Disney for all the good you did my little white girl heart.
I’m not even going to mention how most of the white Disney princesses were completely useless and just sat around waiting for some asshole prince to save them. Kida, Esmerald, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan and Tiana all were badass and awesome role models for little girls. They didn’t take shit from anyone and ended up saving the day most of the time. Even Rapunzel was completely ignorant and a tad childish due to her upbringing. You know who I looked up to as a little girl? Belle because she was the only princess at the time who READ BOOKS. Then Kida and Esmeralda came and I loved them just as much because they kicked some serious ass. So please cry to me about how Disney has done anyone of a non-white race harm. Seriously. I will give you that Hollywood whitewashes and it irritates the shit out of me. Don’t get me started on Bane and Ra’s from the latest Batman Trilogy. But Disney has really done well in my eyes as far as diversity goes.
Also, I bet you ten bucks I get called a racist simply because I’m a white person saying something about race.
Using racial slurs and stereotypes as examples of how well Disney has done when it comes to diversity.
That and saying a bunch of racist things, using racist slurs, and then preemptively acting like you have been victimized if someone calls you racist.
There is a legit cheesy music slow mo scene of smug white people nodding at each other after they shoot a black dude in the head why